TOWN OF ROCKY HILL
BOARD OF EDUCATION
SPECIAL MEETING OF APRIL 1, 2008
Members Present: William MacDonald (Chairman)
Nadine Bell
Raffaella Calciano-Coler
Charles McMonigle
Frank Morse
Rene (Skip) Rivard
Catherine Vargas
Charles Wisnioski
A special meeting of the Board of Education was held on
Tuesday, April 1, 2008 in the Council Chambers of the
The Pledge of Allegiance was recited.
Chairman MacDonald told the public that there were copies of this evening’s agenda in the back of Council Chambers along with copies of the Plan for the Secondary Educational Program and the Plan for the Elementary Educational Program.
1. Discussion of the documents: A Proposal for Elementary Educational
Programs
and Facility Utilization and A Plan for
Secondary Educational Programs and
and Facility Utilization
Chairman MacDonald said at the last Facilities Committee meeting there was a unanimous vote by that Committee to move this to the full Board of Education for discussion and for possible action. He told the Board of Education members that he was going to open this up to them to take any questions, concerns, or comments and he said he would also open it up for an overall discussion of both of these plans.
Chairman MacDonald asked Mr. Wisnioski if he could first give a very brief update from the last Facilities Committee meeting on both of these plans. Mr. Wisnioski said the Board of Education has had each of these plans for at least two months. There have been discussions about these plans at the Curriculum Committee meetings and at the Joint Facilities Committee meetings, as well as at the Board of Education’s Facilities Committee meetings. These plans are outlines and they are not meant to be final. Mr. Wisnioski said Dr. Villar has been the Superintendent of Rocky Hill schools for seven days now. Mr. Wisnioski said the action taken tonight to approve these plans will not “cast them in stone”. The approval of these plans will be a signal to the Town Council and the rest of this community that this Town is at a point on a day where this will
continue to be gone forward with. With regards to the elementary schools, not
much needs to be said about
Chairman MacDonald said it was important to note that this is a consolidated plan or a total plan that addresses pre-kindergarten through twelfth grade and not just one piece is just being looked at for the middle school or high school, etc. This plan takes into account all of the grades and a lot of the data that is being used came from the prior Board of Education. The present Board of Education appreciates all of the effort on the part of the prior Board of Education and the research that those members did. He said this time, the present Board of Education was able to leverage details off from the administration that drove both of these plans based on programs (what is needed for the programs within the schools in order to teach the children). He is really excited about both of these programs and a tremendous amount of work was done from the Board of Education members. A lot of really good discussions took place and there was a lot of good input. He is very excited about moving this forward and going on to the next phase of this. He said there could be a discussion now with regards to all of this.
Mrs. Vargas said as a point of clarification that what is going to be passed forward from the Board of Education to the Town Council are educational requirements. She understood what Mr. Wisnioski was saying but she wasn’t sure if this was clear to the public. Mrs. Vargas went on to explain that the Board of Education is going to be voting on a K-12 Plan of educational needs and then this will be forwarded to the Town Council for them she was assuming to hire an architect or construction firm in order to see what can be done. This would be in concert with the Town Council coming back to the Board of Education through the Joint Facilities Committee or the Government Operations Committee in order to clarify curriculum questions, etc. Mrs. Vargas told Mr. Wisnioski that she was trying to get a point of clarification because what he is saying might be interpreted that all of this may be changed on the Board of Education’s end. Mrs. Vargas is assuming that all of this is being sent to the Town Council for them to start doing some
work on it. Mr. Wisnioski said there is a scheduled meeting of the Joint Facilities Committee for April 7, 2008. At the last Joint Facilities Committee meeting, both of
these plans were discussed.
He referred to parts in the Schoenhardt Report that were trying to be
identified that weren’t ed spec related but that were infrastructure related. He understood that Town Manager Gilbert and
Facilities Director Cooke were going to begin to look at these items so that
some feedback will be able to be given at the Joint Facilities Committee
meeting on April 7, 2008. If there is an
affirmation of this, it is hoped that the Board of Education will be able to
say to them that as of April 1, 2008 this is the ed spec with the understanding
that Superintendent Dr. Villar and Assistant Superintendent Boutilier, who is
with curriculum, along with anyone else who is on the administration side is in
a constant movement to seek out what is best for the district as this is moved
forward with (i.e. a change in technology, etc.). Mr. Wisnioski’s understanding was that the
Town Council has had an RFQ (Request for Qualifications) and that they have
identified architects and construction managers. The Town Council would then hopefully, in
consultation with the Board of Education and collectively with the Joint
Facilities Committee, bring in someone who will evaluate
Mrs. Vargas said when the prior Board of Education voted on Scenario # 5 (of the
Schoenhardt Report) that the entire Board of Education voted as a group and Scenario # 5 was sent to the Town Council. Mrs. Vargas said she remembers having gone to a Town Council meeting and the Mayor had sent this to the Finance Committee and the Government Operations Committee. She thought procedurally that the Board of Education will vote on this and then send it to the Town Council. At that point it will then be up to the Mayor to assign this to the Government Operations Committee. She said she didn’t know if it should be assumed or even thought that this is going to be discussed at the next Joint Facilities Committee meeting because she believes that the next Town Council meeting will be held after that meeting. She thought that procedure wise, this has to be voted on as a Board and then it has to be sent to the Town Council and then the Town Council will make a decision as far as what subcommittees will get this. She told Mr. Wisnioski that she understood everything he said with regards to the Town Council having to pick out the part of this that would be for the maintenance items that will have to go through the Joint Facilities Committee and then the part of this that
might be for the referendum which would go through the Government Operations Committee and the Finance Committee. Mr. Wisnioski agreed with Mrs. Vargas and he thought the Town Council, through Town Manager Gilbert, will understand that this must be done procedurally if this is what is required. Mr. Wisnioski thought it was to the Board of Education’s advantage that the Town Council receive this and that unlike the Schoenhardt Report that they embrace it and that they move forward with this. He recommended this and he said he didn’t have any more knowledge of what the Town Council will do.
Mrs. Vargas asked the Board of Education to consider if a
K-12 Plan is being passed that they have the Town Council look at the situation
of the portables, specifically at
Superintendent Dr. Villar said the documents that are being discussed now were deemed as very important by Town Manager Gilbert with regards to helping her identifying which pieces would go to referendum and which pieces needed to be dealt with by the budget. By giving this listing of requests for facilities’ needs, it should help Town Manager Gilbert establish and prioritize what can be dealt with immediately and he said certainly the issues that Mr. Wisnioski just discussed are being tracked with regards to the painting and the safety issues. Mr. Wisnioski said this Board of Education’s budget requests for 2008-2009 have some facilities’ items in it and he has not seen Town Manager Gilbert’s budget come back so he didn’t know what was done with these. This was the other component of facilities’ needs that the Board of Education has. Mr.
Wisnioski said ideally the Town will accept, understand and then allocate money among immediate things for this budget year before July 1, 2008. Hopefully some of the other issues will be addressed between July 1, 2008 and June 30, 2009. Then there are items that will only be done once and these items will be in the referendum. If some of the items can’t be done in the next budget year then it is hoped that the Grand List will change, revenue sources will be identified and other expenses will be reduced so that more money can be put towards Board of Education facilities’ needs and everybody agrees this is needed because things are very old in the schools. Mrs. Vargas said she wanted to make sure the message also is included along with the K-12 Proposal that is being sent to the Town Council that there are immediate things that need to be done if this referendum passes and the door to a new school opens in five years.
Chairman MacDonald told Mrs. Vargas that he couldn’t agree more with her about this. He said there are things out there that have to get done in the schools and these things can’t wait for five years to be done. Some of the things that need to be done are easy like some of the painting that will be done in two weeks during April school vacation. Chairman MacDonald said all of this has been communicated to the Mayor, the Town Council and a group of others on an informal basis and they all recognize there is a gap of things that need to be addressed. It may be somewhat of a cost now and the town might have to “bite the bullet” a little more now more than it should have. Chairman MacDonald said people can’t just close their eyes for five years and let things go the way they are. The Mayor, Town Manager Gilbert and everyone he has talked to are fully committed to addressing this.
Mrs. Bell said she also agreed with moving this Proposal of
the programmatic need forward to the Town Council. As this process is moved forward with as Mr.
Wisnioski explained of further clarification in working with the Town Council,
Mrs. Bell is hoping the Board of Education will stay focused on the entire K-12
Plan with the understanding that at some point something has to come first once
the approval process is gone through.
The needs of the entire district might have to be met in different
phases and different timeframes but she would like to see the entire plan laid out
before this is moved forward with. She
thought a very close look would have to be taken at
Mr. McMonigle said he is also in favor of moving the plans forward. He likes the documents and he thinks they really do a good job in expressing what it is that the school
system wants to teach, what the vision is and what wants to occur within the buildings, etc. He said there are two documents but he sees these as one plan to be moved together in tandem and not to be separated or played with individually. He said there are some wishlist components in these (i.e. playing fields or other large spaces that may or may not fit) that the Board of Education members know are not going to be feasible from a space or a financial point of view and he was sure that these views are held by some of the Councilors too. Even though, he still wanted to turn the full set of documents over to the architects and to the professionals so that they can look at this. They can be asked how much of this can occur in the buildings that exist right now and how much more would be required in terms of new space. Mr. McMonigle said maybe the professionals have creative ways of working with large spaces that haven’t been thought of. He explained a little more and he said for the professionals to start with the whole work product and then the Board of Education can work it back. He also hopes that this continues to be a collaborative process. This is being moved on to the Town Council but he said there needs to be a lot of back and forth dialogue as this is moved forward with, with the ideas and suggestions. He said hopefully this will continue and he thought this was a great start to get this going.
Mr. Morse said he had been hoping that the Mayor, or Town
Manager Gilbert or someone from the Town Council would have been at this
evening’s meeting because he wanted some clarification of what they have
actually received. Mr. Morse wanted to
know if they just received an RFQ or if they put out an RFP (Request for
Proposal). Mr. Wisnioski said he knew
the Mayor is very ill. Mr. Wisnioski
said there is a budget meeting tomorrow in which the full budget, including the
Board of Education’s portion, will be presented in a public hearing and that is
what Town Manager Gilbert is preparing for now.
Mr. Wisnioski also believed that Superintendent Dr. Villar and Chairman
MacDonald were going to be making some remarks at that public hearing. Mr. Wisnioski believed that Town Manager
Gilbert tried to understand the new bidding laws that exist that are relative
to towns and school boards engaging outside professionals. Mr. Wisnioski believed that RFQs were done
and there was a basic investigation done of the individuals who responded. Town
Manager Gilbert had stated that not a lot of individuals had responded and some
were disqualified out of the ones who responded. Mr. Wisnioski believed there has to be a
separation of the professionals who respond, who are bidders, to actually do
the work. He mentioned how Town Manager
Gilbert had referred to the
Mrs. Calciano-Coler said she was also in favor of moving this document forward to the Town Council. She understood and she hoped that everyone understood that this is a fluid document. She agreed that this should be a collaborative effort. She thanked
everyone for the opportunity of being able to attend the Facilities Committee as a whole Board of Education. Knowledge is recognized that there are issues that need to be attended to at both schools at this time and that can’t be waited to be attended to between now to five years. She echoed the comments that have already been made.
2. Possible action/vote regarding the
adoption of the facilities plan
Moved by Rene Rivard, seconded by Nadine
Bell, that the Board of Education
approve the documents “A Proposal for Elementary Educational Programs and
Facility Utilization” and “A Plan for Secondary Educational Programs and
Facility Utilization” and that these
documents are forwarded jointly to be
considered as a single K-12 Plan to the
Town Council for the purpose of
planning for the future construction and
renovation needs of the Rocky Hill
public school system.
FAVOR: ALL
MOTION CARRIED
Chairman MacDonald told everyone how appreciative he was for this evening’s meeting. He knew there were very tight deadlines on getting this to the Town Council and there was a lot of work that had to be done. Some people had said this couldn’t be done but he said the Board of Education got this done and the members of the Board of Education pushed this ahead. He said his sole purpose in changing the date for this meeting was because he wanted every member of the Board of Education to be able to attend this meeting to express their support, comments, questions and concerns about the program because it is so important. He went on to say that he would never want to have a meeting where 25% of the Board of Education members couldn’t be present. He explained this was why this meeting was pushed to a different time in order to clear up any confusion that anyone might have. He said he would take the heat for this but he wanted everyone to understand the sole purpose for why this was done.
Mr. Wisnioski thanked Assistant Superintendent Boutilier and Finance Director Turansky for representing the administrators. The Board of Education had asked them to do a lot of things at a time when there had been changes in personnel. Mr. Wisnioski said the Board of Education members would not have taken the vote without the documents and they really had nothing to do with the documents except for the administration. The documents are clear and they are a very positive ed spec. The documents are very specific with specific problems and specific solutions. In general, this will enable the town to move forward. He asked the Board of Education to put these documents on the website, if it hasn’t already been done, so that the public has the right to see this. These
documents are already posted on the website for TABS and he thanked them for that. He said these are official now and there had been some hesitation before about this. He
hoped that the public, including members of TABS, would feel free to communicate with the members of the Board of Education in order to give their insight. He said Assistant
Superintendent Boutilier is involved in many things that might change. Mr. Wisnioski said comments or criticisms are welcome from anybody. Someone in town had done a study of this and they came up with a positive suggestion and this was discussed today. He said this is a good moment and nobody would be here without Assistant
Superintendent Boutilier, Finance Director Turansky and the other administrators.
3. Discussion of policy/procedure for the
cancellation and rescheduling of Board of
Education meetings
Chairman MacDonald turned this over to Superintendent Dr. Villar and then he told the Board of Education members that they could discuss this. Superintendent Dr. Villar said there was some concern over the cancellation of the recent meeting and Chairman MacDonald had shared with him his desire that meetings be rescheduled if two members of the Board of Education aren’t able to be present at them. That was the case for the original meeting that was supposed to take place this Thursday night and this is why this evening’s meeting was held instead. Specific Board of Education members had asked for this item to be put on this evening’s agenda and he said maybe they wanted to discuss this now.
Mr. McMonigle said he asked for this item to be put on the agenda. There had been some chaos about the original meeting and this meeting. His point was that the Board of Education members vote in the beginning of the year to set the meetings. The Board of Education members, along with the administrators and parents, calendar these meetings.
He said if these meetings are cancelled or the dates are moved for them that this should be done by a vote. If there is a situation where Board of Education members can’t be present at a meeting and there is an important vote then there is the option to table items or to add meetings. He thought to just cancel a meeting without a majority vote is the wrong way to go.
Mr. Rivard agreed in this concept completely but he said that he still believed in the power of the Chairperson. Mr. Rivard thought the Chairperson should be able to make decisions with regards to when meetings should be held. Mr. Rivard said he was supposed to be at another meeting right now where he is the Chairperson and he cancelled it. He thought sometimes this is what a Chairperson has to do taking into consideration the feelings of the entire Board. He thought a policy should be adopted as was being discussed earlier.
Mrs. Bell said perhaps this is something that has to be changed in the By-Laws as opposed to a Board policy or procedure. The By-Laws of an organization set forth the framework as to how meetings are run.
Superintendent Dr. Villar said he took a look into the By-Laws and State Statutes that govern meetings in response to the questions that were raised over the rescheduling of the meeting. He found out that the Chairperson has the sole authority to set the agenda and
the Chairperson is required to schedule a meeting, once every six months however if three Board members request a meeting then within two weeks the Chairperson has to schedule that meeting. If this doesn’t happen then the law allows for intermediary steps to be taken and the Board can override the Chairperson in that time. Other than this, there are no other regulations currently in the By-Laws that would impact the Chairperson’s ability to cancel a meeting or to schedule a meeting.
Mrs. Bell hoped because of the fact that the Board of Education has scaled back to one Board meeting a month that an attempt would try to be made to not cancel that as it is out on the annual calendar. She would like to hold these meetings sacred as the normal Board meetings because there are students, staff members and administrators who plan on coming to these.
Chairman MacDonald said he talked with Superintendent Dr. Villar about the possibility of scheduling when the subcommittee meetings should be held for the entire year. He gave an example of the Facilities Committee and he said if even one meeting a month for this committee is booked then it can be held in Council Chambers and it can be televised. All of the Board of Education members are trying to meet the commitment they had during the election of being more transparent and communicating more with the public. Unfortunately, especially in the case of the subcommittee meetings because they are held within twenty-four to forty-eight hours notice, there is never the chance for this to happen. Like it is done on the Town Council side, Superintendent Dr. Villar is looking into the possibility of setting a calendar for the Board of Education that would include all of the subcommittee meetings.
4. Discussion of elementary magnet school
option
Superintendent Dr. Villar said he spent this morning with David Wedge who is with the State Department of Education with regards to school construction projects. David Wedge is this state’s expert and he is the person who would approve the projects. Superintendent Dr. Villar said he spent about an hour with David Wedge and he asked him about some of the steps and the procedures that this town would have to follow.
A few weeks ago, other representatives of this state were met with in order to discuss the possibilities of a magnet school. The magnet school timeline is extremely extended in comparison to a regular facility. If the town was to propose the construction of an elementary school that was managed and run by Rocky Hill, then that timeline would be quicker than a magnet school. Several important steps would have to be taken for the magnet school to be approved. The most important step is the development of a theme and this could take a full school year to do and curriculum would have to be developed around this theme. This state is very insistent that this has to be clearly articulated and a simple statement would not work. This would be a lengthy step. Another very important
piece would be for this town to go out, recruit and enter
into agreements with partnering districts.
A push and rationale behind magnet schools is for desegregation purposes
and the Sheff vs. O’Neill situation into
to enter into agreements with urban centers and most likely
Chairman MacDonald said Superintendent Dr. Villar had
discussed with him that no matter where this town goes or what the position is on
the magnet school that these two plans are based on need. Chairman MacDonald asked Superintendent Dr.
Villar if he could explain this to the Board of Education members. Superintendent Dr. Villar said the plans that
were just approved by the Board of Education speak to the facilities’ needs
based on the curriculum viewpoint on the programs that are offered. In a perfect world, these are what would be
wanted in the facilities to make the educational program achieve at the highest
level as possible. These documents will
drive what the town is going to do as far as addressing facilities. The magnet school option is a potential
solution to one of the issues outlined in the plan that was just approved. In conversation that he has heard, he knows
that there are concerns about secondary facilities too. The magnet school option might resolve an
elementary issue, particularly the
Mrs. Bell thought to be able to even consider something like this that in addition to the strong Board of Education support, a strong community support would be needed as well for this. She asked if it would make sense to have a community forum to explain what a
magnet school is as well as what would be required of the community. She said perhaps the community would not be in favor of the magnet school. She questioned why a path should be gone down to find out in the end that the community does not support the
magnet school because this is the community’s schools. She didn’t suggest that there be a public hearing and a vote but just a discussion as to what a magnet school means to the community for potential future action.
Mrs. Calciano-Coler agreed with Mrs. Bell and she thought the “cart was being put before the horse”. She would rather go to the community to ask for its opinion after it has informational knowledge on what the magnet school is. She said the 95% reimbursement sounds great but this is for the facility reimbursement and not for developing and running the magnet school. She echoed Mrs. Bell comment about going out to the community before this idea is pursued.
Superintendent Dr. Villar believed that representatives from the State Department of Education would be interested in addressing the Board of Education perhaps with a formal presentation which could be televised as well and this might help to educate the community. He said he could contact the individuals who have been met with to see if they could come to do this.
Mr. Wisnioski said to first exclude the magnet school
aspect. He has had calls from people who
are asking how Rocky Hill can afford to have a bigger, brighter and bolder
school at the
The capital benefit may be outweighed by the bussing
operation and there is the uncertainty factor of who gets to go. He wasn’t sure if he understood the
difference between a host magnet school and a CREC magnet school. He asked Superintendent Dr. Villar if he
could address this. Superintendent Dr.
Villar said one of the issues that would need to be answered is who would run
the school. A common pattern has been to
have CREC or ACES run the school as an independent agency. When this decision is made, then local
control of education in that facility is being given up (i.e. curriculum, and
management of the school). The other
thing is to have this managed locally and then the Board of Education of Rocky
Hill would take on the additional cost and burden of managing the school. The benefit that would be seen readily would
be that there would be control and certain policies could be continued. Outside of
Chairman MacDonald said maybe at the Board of Education meeting in May that Superintendent Dr. Villar could have the state come in to do a presentation and he asked if there were materials that the Board of Education members could get ahead of time. Chairman MacDonald thought this was something that would want to be publicized so
that people in town could know about this. Mr. McMonigle thought this was a great idea. He explained some more and he said if there is a sense of the community early on that people would just want to address the needs now and go forward without the magnet school option then that is fine. Mr. Wisnioski thought whatever information there is available for May 1, 2008 should be fair. The benefits of the 95% reimbursement should be known. He didn’t know if CREC was being spoken about. Superintendent Dr. Villar said the Board of Education would have to make a decision and it could engage any organization to run the school. Mr. Wisnioski thought the most frequently asked questions need to be addressed (i.e. what it would cost). He didn’t think it would useful to leave this as an open-ended item after May 1, 2008.
Mrs. Vargas didn’t think this would be May 1, 2008 and she said instead this would be at the May meeting of the Board of Education whenever that is scheduled for. She would hate to make a decision about a magnet school just solely on cost. Rocky Hill has been striving for equality between the two elementary schools for a long time. The perception in town is one is much better than the other. If there is an outside organization running the magnet school as most of the magnet schools have then this could create “another can of worms”. She thought that the state should explain this at the May meeting of the Board of Education so that the town understands it. She agreed with Mr. McMonigle that if there is no interest then the process shouldn’t be held up and if this is the way the town is supposed to go then maybe this is the way it is supposed to go. She said because of the perception of the elementary schools not being the same that she would hate to throw a third school in with a different owner to make things worse.
Chairman MacDonald said this has been a very good discussion and he thought Superintendent Dr. Villar knows what he has to do. Chairman MacDonald told Superintendent Dr. Villar he thought it was important that he shares the plan of the elementary schools with the state when he talks with them. Chairman MacDonald said part of what he has gleaned from dealing with administration is studies have shown that what this is based on is 400 or 450 smaller equally disbursed schools and he asked how this would fit into 650. There are a lot of variables and more information is needed that the Board of Education does not have this evening. He thought it was worth it to bring the representatives of the state in and see where the town will go with this.
5. Set Graduation Date
Superintendent Dr. Villar said the Board of Education is obligated annually to formally set the graduation date. The last day of school this year is scheduled for June 24, 2008.
Moved by Rene Rivard, seconded by Charles McMonigle, that the Board of Education set the official graduation date for June 24, 2008.
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MOTION CARRIED
Mr. McMonigle asked if the location of the graduation is going to be in front of the high school versus the back of it. He said there have been a lot of complaints about having this set up in the front. He asked if it could be looked at to have this held in the back. He asked if tents or different options could be looked at. He said there was a beautiful space out in the back.
Chairman MacDonald said the state has spent a lot of money on the amphitheater and he asked if there has ever been discussion with regards to holding the graduation here. He said he goes to the amphitheater for concerts and it is a beautiful location. Mr. McMonigle said any place that is comfortable and that can accommodate the people would be fine. Chairman MacDonald asked Superintendent Dr. Villar if he could look into this and he said he certainly would.
Mr. Wisnioski said the graduation for one of his children was held on the football field and because of the absence of elevation or how everything was laid out that the people couldn’t see the speakers, etc. When the graduation is held in front of the high school, enough seats are never set out. He said the amphitheater might be very nice because the line of sight is better and it accommodates a larger crowd but there are no seats. People would have to sit on the lawn or people would have to bring their own chairs. He didn’t know what could be done about this and he didn’t know if this ties into Project Graduation. Mr. McMonigle said Project Graduation starts at 10:00 p.m. or 10:30 p.m. Mr. Wisnioski said there is only one road into the amphitheater. Mr. McMonigle said at least a look could be taken at this.
Mrs. Bell suggested that perhaps the input of class advisors and parent advisory be received because it is such an issue year after year with regards to where graduation is held. She said maybe input could be received to see what people are looking for.
Mr. Wisnioski asked why the bleachers at the football field aren’t used for the people attending the graduation ceremony and then he said that the students who are graduating could sit in chairs on the football field. He asked if this wouldn’t be better because then people could see better. Chairman MacDonald said Superintendent Dr. Villar has direction on this.
Moved by Catherine Vargas, seconded by
Nadine Bell, to adjourn the meeting at
8:00 p.m.
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MOTION CARRIED
Respectfully submitted,
Jo-Anne Booth
Recording Secretary
Accepted by:_____________________________ Date:__________________________